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Over the last two weeks, I have received five emails (from five different people) asking what my thoughts are on this topic:

Self-Publishing versus Traditional Publishing

Because of the "current publishing climate" (a phrase you are likely to come across a lot in your correspondence with agents), many writers are wondering if they would not be better off self-publishing.


Better off?

My answer: No.

A viable alternative?

My answer: Sure. Why not. Maybe...



I see self-publishing as a sort of escape hatch. It allows you to get your book out there into the hands of the public, without requiring you to jump through all the fiery hoops agents and editors have set before you on the alternate path. This is great, because it allows you to make sure your book reaches the marketplace.

As you know already, however, this is also bad...because it lets anyone's book reach the marketplace.

Most readers do not know how terribly difficult it can be to get published. But they do have some idea. And they know that anyone who has self-published has not gone through this process. There is no "stamp of approval" on the book that says, "I, the undersigned editor, endorse this book. I put my faith in it. I have advised my publishing house to take a financial risk by publishing this novel. I think it is good enough to turn this risk into a profit."

But that's not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is often that no one even knows the book exists!

There are exceptions to this, of course. For instance, Scott Nicholson sold 10,000 copies of his self-published books on the Kindle...last December alone. Scott Nicholson also had several self-published books for sale at once. And he had already published a number of books traditionally. And as I said, he is an exception.

You might have a great marketing plan yourself. Your great marketing plan might actually pan out. But no matter how great your marketing plan is, it will always be better if you have your books in brick and mortar stores in addition to having it online. Your book will be seen by more people this way. Your book will be taken more seriously this way. Breaking into the constant consciousness of readers is a difficult task. It becomes that much more difficult when you self-publish.


Will self-publishing hurt me, if I seek traditional publishing later?

Not at all. In fact - if you do sell an extraordinary number of copies - it might even help you. But you cannot tell publishers that you are a published novelist if you paid to publish the book yourself. In fact, you cannot tell family and friends and strangers you are a published novelist (not unless you don't mind lying to them, of course - and then you'll look silly when they find out the truth). And if you have self-published and the novel did poorly, you just might want to hide this from an agent until after they have agreed to represent you.


But can't I make better money self-publishing?

Yes. And no. You certainly make better money per-copy-sold when you self-publish. But you are not likely to sell nearly as many copies.


What if I have gotten shut down on every avenue I have tried? Should I self-publish then?

Yes. And again, no. If you have gotten shut down by every agent and editor you have approached, it is great to know that self-publishing is still an available option. But if you have gotten shut down by every agent and editor you have approached, you might also want to ask yourself: Why? You may be a great writer. You may have a great story. But the story might need more work before it is ready for publication. Or perhaps, this is not the novel that is supposed to be "your first novel." Maybe it is time to set the project aside for now, and to focus on your next one.


An interjection: These are simply my own opinions.


An anecdote:

There is a self-published author you have probably come across on Goodreads or Twitter or the Greater Internet Area yourself - a young man whose name I will not mention (as it is, of course, always best to keep real-life people as anonymous as possible when speaking negatively about them). He frequently posts on Twitter and on his website, trying to rally people to write good reviews of his book. Ironically, he frequently talks about how well-reviewed his book has been (I wonder why). He also calls himself a published author. He talks about his book all the time - actually, he seems to talk about nothing else. This book is his pride and joy. And in fact, it is an interesting premise. And in fact, the writing is above-average. And in fact, there are about four or five grammatical errors and misusage errors in the first few pages alone.

Take from that anecdote what you will.


In summary:

I say, aim to land your book with a traditional publisher. If you get shut down everywhere you turn, work on the book some more. And some more. And some more. If you still have not broken through with this book, and you are ready to query a new book now, and you feel that the previous book is good enough to sell some copies (and that you have a strong enough marketing plan that some people will find out about the book), give self-publishing some thought. But keep your sights set higher.

Always keep your sights set higher.


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A set of non sequiturs:

It is interesting to me how you can react a completely different way to a book upon a second reading. I have been reading Vonnegut's books chronologically - to get a feel for his development, growth, progression, regression, expansion, contraction, et cetera, as a writer - and most of these are rereads for me. There are three books I did not enjoy nearly as much upon a second reading: Player Piano, Cat's Cradle, and (especially) Breakfast of Champions. There are others (Slaughterhouse-Five - my third reading of it - and The Sirens of Titan) I enjoyed just as much. And I am currently reading Jailbird, which I hated when I read it several years ago. And I find I am loving it now.


Two days ago, I received an email from the marketing director of Atticus Books, notifying me that a bookstore in Massachusetts has asked if I would be interested in doing a reading/signing when I do my East Coast book tour in the fall. The ARCs just went out to bookstores about a week and a half ago, so that was the first request I have received so far; that was a cool thing to stumble upon in my inbox.


I was in New England this last weekend (The Shutterbug surprised me with a trip up there - during which we stayed on the Cape with friends, caught a game at Fenway, and saw a bunch of people I grew up with), and I went into a bookstore that I knew had been sent an ARC of The Great Lenore. It was a fun feeling to know that I was in the store, and that a copy of my book was in some desk drawer or back room in there as well. I felt like calling out to it. But I refrained.


During our trip to New England, The Shutterbug and I spent time in airports in Chicago, Boston, Milwaukee, and Denver; we slept on five separate planes; we traveled all around Boston and the surrounding towns; and...we left a grand total of two Litter Cards behind us. Oops. Hopefully those of you who have asked for Litter Cards have done a better job than we did.


I'll see you guys next Friday. And remember, more reviews for The Great Lenore should start coming in over the next few weeks. As they do, I will post the links to all of them (positive and negative alike) on the Lenore page [update at 4:55 P.M. on Friday: I just came across a new review - Mark Westmoreland's review on Goodreads; the link is posted on the page].


Keep writing.
Keep reading.
~JM


P.S. I miss the delicious food I had available to me all weekend in Boston...



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14 comments:

  1. Hey Jordan,

    Thanks for the great post and lending some perspective on a topic that is in such high debate. I agree with you on pretty much everything. When it comes down to it, a traditional publisher is the way to go.
    As I was telling my husband this weekend though, I think I'm going to walk both lines for two separate purposes.

    On the one hand, I have a book of short stories about pregnancy that I will be e-pubbing on my site. I'm choosing to do this only because I'd like to share my experiences with other mothers who may need a laugh. I don't care if I make much money off it, it's more that they're stories I've wanted to bind into a collection and share for awhile now. If I make a nickel or two *smiles* then that's alright with me, but not why I'm doing it.

    On the other hand, the novel that I'm working on, when finished, polished, and has caused me to rip every hair out of my head, will be queried to agents so that I may possibly attain the gold "published" star.

    To sum it up, I think it really comes down to is what you're looking for when you pub or e-pub. Are you looking for validation or do you just want to share your experiences?

    Thanks for letting me ramble!

    Paige

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  2. That is a good point, "I think it really comes down to is what you're looking for.." Both the e-book self pub world and the traditional venue has pro's and con's, it's a matter of your own pro/con list. I'm thinking of the same thing, one MS for self pub and the other MS( with an agent now), I'm holding out for the 'traditional' path.

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  3. Paige - That is a very good point, which I did not think to make. There are certainly times when self-publishing is a great idea - for instance (as you mentioned), getting some stories or some thoughts out there to readers, without making them pay a lot of money, and without going through the chronic headaches you must go through to push something all the way to publication. After all, there are certain things we all write that may not make much money, but that some people will enjoy nonetheless. Self-publishing is great for this! (And if we are wrong, and these things do end up making great money, all the better!)

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  4. Thank you for this insightful post, Jordan. I agree with all your assertions. For me, I choose to ignore self-publishing is an option. I think that, to a certain extent, it may hinder the quality of what I write, if I remind myself I can publish on my own. That is not the goal I am striving for. As you said, I think it comes down to what someone is looking for. Self-publishing is a great option for those who write for hobby, or those who have other careers and write on the side. It is great for sharing your words with your family and friends, and even taking it a bit further.

    But, to me, it is not a road you would take if you hope to write for a career (even if you have another job to support yourself in the beginning). Or one you would take if you are truly passionate about your story. Parents want the best for their children, right? They have visions of where we will land and what we will be doing. A writer should have the same vision for his "baby."

    One of my favorite things about writing in bookstores is it keeps my eyes on the prize. I am in the environment that houses the future I hope and see for my work. By my standards, if something I write has not earned shelf space in the top stores (or store, in the event one is no longer with us when that time comes), I have not really written a book. It does not mean I haven't written, but I can't look myself in the mirror and call it a book.

    By the way, coming here today provided a whole new level of excitement, as I have spent the last seven days feeling as though something was missing. When I remembered today was Friday and you would have thoughts to share, I got a bit giddy - at least I think that's what it was. I'm not sure; I don't get giddy often. The weeks got a bit longer when you switched to Fridays only, but I of course understand your reasoning.

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  5. I've been sitting here, staring at the screen for the past five minutes, thinking how to respond to your post. For while I agree with what you say, there's also a part of me that bristles at your words. I've yet to sign with an agent, but that isn't for lack of trying. And several times I've come very close, if agent feedback is any indication.

    I've done a lot of soul searching this past week, and I've decided to eventually self-publish the book I've been trying so hard to find an agent to represent. Of course I will revise a hundred times over before I do so. But I think my goals have changed. Or rather, I've remembered *why* I write in the first place: to share my stories vs making a lot of money or becoming famous. Certainly I don't think I am any less passionate about my book (as Paul suggests).

    Finally, writing a book and signing with an agent does not guarantee that it will ever be published, in the traditional sense of the word. One of my friends is an agented writer, and yet she ended up self-publishing her first book. Does that make her any less of a writer? I don't think so.

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  6. Melissa - I think this is also a place where everyone can diverge a bit, each taking a path that suits them. For instance, you say that you write to share your stories. As I said (speaking in a broad generality), you can usually share your story with a lot more people when you publish traditionally - the money be damned. And of course, signing with an agent does not mean a publishing deal - only a publishing deal means a publishing deal! But I do think all writers should keep traditional publishing as the goal before them. Even if someone were to self-publish a number of books first, I still feel that selfsame writer ought to continue to chase the avenue that will get their book into as many hands as possible.

    In the end, however, I certainly think self-publishing is a viable option - and I do not feel that it makes someone any less of a "writer" (after all, a writer is someone who writes!). But at the same time, it is a much harder road than many people imagine - if getting a story into the hands of readers is truly the goal.

    Thoughts?

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  7. Oh, absolutely self-publishing is a difficult road to take. I certainly don't disagree with you there. A big part of me feels like I'm settling (which probably accounts for the bristling of feelings!). I'm letting go of a dream I've had since I could hold a pencil. But then again, was that dream to sell lots of books, or simply to write and share my stories with those who would read them?(I really am still trying to figure that one out)A traditional publishing deal will *always* be something I strive for, but I also don't want to sit back and wait for the Powers That Be to give me their stamp of approval and tell me I'm a good writer. I know I am! Unfortunately, there will always be those who thumb their noses at self-publishers. Not that I'm pointing a finger at you. ;-)

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  8. Melissa - I feel like you have a great grasp of your thoughts on this matter; and after all, self-publishing one book does not mean that you are letting go of a dream you have had; that dream, as it stands, remains intact!

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  9. Interesting to hear your thoughts here, Jordan.

    I've given up trying to guess or predict the future of publishing. When I started blogging my posts were all related to the e-book v traditional debate as I attempted to come to some kind of understanding, but like many things I realised that in the end none of it really matters.

    I like to think that I don't care about the money, that I write solely for the love of the craft, that I just want the thrill of having my work read and I'd do it for free if I could, and for most of us this is all somewhat true; however I think we are all also vain, we are all also ambitious dreamers, and while we like the romantic notion of being driven by purely selfless aims in reality we want to be as successful as we can.

    There is a stigma attached to self-publishing that, as much as the landscape is shifting, will always remain, for the reasons you outlined above. At this stage in my nascent writing career I can't pretend that I don't still want it all. I want to see my book in a store, I want to go on a book tour (your east coast tour both excited me and brought on a pang of jealousy, my friend!), I want to make a living doing what I love.

    As such I believe for now that self-publishing is not for me. Certainly it has its strengths, and for many people it could be the perfect fit, but for many others, despite the oft-read doom and gloom about the future of traditional publishing, it is not a viable alternative at this stage.

    Like all things however, time can bring great change, and we are all keeping an eye on developments in this so-called publishing war. As soon as for whatever reason the prospect of self-pubbing does become attractive for us individually, we will all be ready to make the leap. It's nice to know, at the very least, that we still have the ability to take matters into our own hands.

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  10. First, let me say that I'm not a writer... I'm a reader. And I'm aware that the publishing industry is rapidly changing... and no one is quite sure yet just how it will settle down and be defined in the near future.

    One thing is sure, though... Whether you follow the traditional route of landing a publishing deal with a "traditional" publisher, or you choose to be self-published, you face a lot of competition.

    Something JM (it's odd for me to refer to him that way) mentions in this post is the author's marketing plan. However you end up publishing your book, how are people going to 1) find it, 2) become interested in it, and 3) actually buy it?

    If your book lands in the brick and mortar book stores... how will the prospective reader actually come to even be aware that your book exists among all the spines lined up on the shelves? And for either method of publishing, how will anyone find YOUR book as they browse through online databases (e.g. Amazon.com)?

    As a reader, I tend to find an author I like, then begin to buy each of his/her books until I've read them all. When I spend money on a book I want to know I will enjoy it. Much of that translates to my attachment to a main character (in character-based series) and to the style of writing. In fact, there is one author whose next book I wait for expectantly each year. I have the US release date marked on my calendar. I will not miss one of his books... I like them that much.

    The point is, for long term, you want to find loyal readers. And loyal readers come by producing something they not only like, but that they want to keep coming back for.

    So... back to marketing. What are you doing TODAY to encourage a readership base? What materials are you getting out there (blogs, magazines, op/ed, guest blogging) that exposes people to your style of writing. Something that makes them say, "I like what that person said, and how they said it." Or, "I liked that short story. Who is this person? Where can I find more of what they're writing?"

    How will they find you, and how will you increase their interest in your craft when they find you?

    For instance... Much of what I stumble across these days comes through Twitter. When people follow me I take a moment to check out their Twitter stream. If they offer stuff I like, I'll follow them... if not, I'll just close the browser and go my way.

    As I follow them I continually evaluate the quality of content I find through their posts. If it's not interesting, I unfollow. If I find it valuable (to me), I move them to a list where I am more likely to focus on their content.

    Not everyone works Twitter like I do... but no matter the venue, the process ends up being the same...

    1) Get your name out there so people can find you. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW YOUR NAME!

    2) When they find you, make sure they have content that represents who you are as a craftsman... TELL THEM YOUR STORIES! SHOW THEM YOUR WRITING!

    3) Write in a manner that makes them want more. ALWAYS LEAVE THEM WANTING MORE!

    Okay... now that I've said it... it's time for me to begin paying attention to what I just said.

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  11. Luke - I almost feel as though you should have saved those thoughts for a blog post of your own! They are very insightful; very good.

    Dad - I almost feel as though your comment is a blog post; hopefully writers will read it and learn from it.

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  12. Jayce - Your thoughts are textbook quality, yet unlike textbooks, they are not boring or redundant. It is a valuable perspective to have; I've read, I learned, and I have bookmarked!

    Marketing is an important part of this business. It's an important part of any business. And, despite some of the connotations out there, it does not have to be uncomfortable. Any writer can develop a plan that fits with who they are.

    As an unpublished writer, your comment reminded me how important it is to begin marketing as early as possible. That means BEFORE the query letter is written and BEFORE the manuscript is complete. Meet people - both online AND in person. I recently blogged about an experience I had that taught me you never know when you're meeting a potential reader. Your name becomes a brand; it's associated with a product, and we need people to know it exists. It's not easy to accomplish; the important thing is to put forth the effort and never stop trying. Marketing techniques don't always work. Some fail miserably. But, a basic Marketing 101 course will tell you: never stop trying. Keep looking for new ideas.

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  13. A great marketing-related question for a writer... How popular is my blog? How successful am I in driving traffic to it?

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  14. I'm late to the party, as usual :)

    Thank you for another great post, JM. It can be tempting to go the self-publishing route and completely bypass the traditional publishing route, but just because it's easy does not mean that it's always right.

    I love reading reviews of The Great Lenore, and can't wait to get my mitts on an official copy. I've left your cards out in the lobby at my place of business and at the various coffee shops I frequent. I hope someone discovers you through me! :)

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